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  Am I selfish?

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  tonight i had an argument with both my parents.

  my parents are aware of my feelings towards the organization, and it saddens them because i am their first born son.

  they had high expectations of me, my father dreamt of him and i serving together as elders.

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  Jules Saturn

  LoisLane looking for Superman:

  I have an inactive grandfather that has been inactive for several decades, but most of my family are in, and their mostly born ins
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  Am I selfish?

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  tonight i had an argument with both my parents.

  my parents are aware of my feelings towards the organization, and it saddens them because i am their first born son.

  they had high expectations of me, my father dreamt of him and i serving together as elders.

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  Jules Saturn

  Tonight I had an argument with both my parents. My parents are aware of my feelings towards the organization, and it saddens them because I am their first born son. They had high expectations of me, my father dreamt of him and I serving together as elders. Right now they seem very hurt by my feelings towards the organization. They see it as something against God, which it isn't, and I've tried explaining that to them, by talking about the organization's history but they are convinced that this is the true organization. I look at childhood photos of my father embracing me and I can't help but get emotional and feel some form of guilt for "waking up". As hurt as they are, I myself am hurt by all of this. They accuse me of being selfish by stirring off into another path. They see it as them going towards the finish line and I'm going the opposite direction. I can't help but feel like there will be a strain in the relationship I have with my parents and it hurts me so much because like I every child, I sincerely love my parents, even if they say they'll forget about me if I don't make it to the new system. Is it strange to feel guilt? Should I not feel any type of guilt at all? Am I selfish?

  ~Jules
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  UN Association

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so this happened awhile back ago, i was talking to this bethelite that i respect, i consider him to be very sincere.

  this was during the time i had discovered the un association the society had as an ngo.

  i already knew the answer, but to see his response, i asked him "was the society ever part of the united nations?

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  Jules Saturn

  joel134cd

  see that's why I figured there has to be some amount of people at HQ who are aware of the UN association
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  UN Association

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so this happened awhile back ago, i was talking to this bethelite that i respect, i consider him to be very sincere.

  this was during the time i had discovered the un association the society had as an ngo.

  i already knew the answer, but to see his response, i asked him "was the society ever part of the united nations?

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  Jules Saturn

  Londo111

  I'm sure they'd still find a way to justify it
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  "You're going to die in Armageddon"

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm sure i am not the only one to have heard this come out of the mouths of my loved ones.

  it's a very painful thing to hear, especially when it comes from the people like your own parents/family.

  even after i've been told that, they would say "we'll just continue life without you.

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  Jules Saturn

  DesirousOfChange:

  how did they respond?
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  UN Association

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so this happened awhile back ago, i was talking to this bethelite that i respect, i consider him to be very sincere.

  this was during the time i had discovered the un association the society had as an ngo.

  i already knew the answer, but to see his response, i asked him "was the society ever part of the united nations?

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  Jules Saturn

  I feel like if I were to bring it up to my family, they might say "Yeah but are they currently an NGO?" and I'd say "No, but that's not the point, etc..."
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  Dunkirk.

  by zeb in

  1. social
  2. current

  i have just seen the film "dunkirk".

  do yourselves a big favour and go see it.

  (not for kids).

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  Jules Saturn

  Beautiful film, especially the ending, saw it all in IMAX and it was so beautiful
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  UN Association

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so this happened awhile back ago, i was talking to this bethelite that i respect, i consider him to be very sincere.

  this was during the time i had discovered the un association the society had as an ngo.

  i already knew the answer, but to see his response, i asked him "was the society ever part of the united nations?

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  Jules Saturn

  I imagined that anyone at HQ would've known about it but I guess it's only whoever was in the writing department
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  UN Association

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so this happened awhile back ago, i was talking to this bethelite that i respect, i consider him to be very sincere.

  this was during the time i had discovered the un association the society had as an ngo.

  i already knew the answer, but to see his response, i asked him "was the society ever part of the united nations?

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  Jules Saturn

  So this happened awhile back ago, I was talking to this bethelite that I respect, I consider him to be very sincere. This was during the time I had discovered the UN association the Society had as an NGO. I already knew the answer, but to see his response, I asked him "Was the Society ever part of the United Nations?" and he tells me "No, not at all." So you could see why I found his answer insteresting. I thought his response would be interesting because he's been at Bethel since the late 90's, so surely he would know more about the Society than I do. But hearing him deny it told me 2 things.

  1. He's lying

  2. He genuinely doesn't know about the association the Society had with the UN

  Which if that's the case, that he doesn't know, it tells me that the majority of Witnesses, even those on a higher level, are unaware of it. What has been your experience when talking to Witnesses about this subject? Did you find a least a few people that were aware of it or more people that knew absolutely nothing about it?

  ~Jules
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  Conversation with my Dad

  by jeremiah18:5-10 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my 73 yo dad called me tonight.

  he had just returned from the convention.

  he proceeded to tell me he can't believe that a smart and successful man like myself can be so dumb so as not to believe that jws have the truth.

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  Jules Saturn

  I get the same exact responses from my own father, it's sad actually. And I refrain from telling him the truth about his convictions so I respect it